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Saturday, 6 August 2011

B: A Reasonable Argument

Debating reason is an extremely difficult matter, because reason itself is the primary tool of debate.  Certainly there are other weapons in the arsenal of the persuasive argument, but reason is the only one that can declare itself openly.  If people find themselves convinced, they usually like to believe that it was the logic and the facts of the argument that swayed their opinion.  The emotional element of a persuasive argument is considered almost deceptive, something you have to set aside to get at the meat of the matter, something that you can't let yourself be “tricked" by.

So how do you engage someone in a debate who declares themselves an opponent of reason?  Do you see who can pick up the biggest stick and hit the other the hardest over the head with it?  Trying to construct a persuasive argument that reason is flawed is a paradox of inconsistency.  Trying to construct a persuasive argument that reason is valid is a paradox of consistency, circular reasoning at its finest and not liable to be very impressive to your opponent who has already declared that they refuse to be caught in the loop.  It's a bit of an impasse.  It's a sword fight to settle the practicality of drawing swords.

And yet, if you believe as I do, that reason is in fine working order, that it is our best means of understanding life and the universe, that our very survival depends on its reliability, then you have to do your best to overcome this impasse.  Otherwise, you're left with no other option but walking away and turning your back as the reputation of the human mind continues to be abused.  You have to make your case, and just hope that the opposition doesn't completely refuse to listen.  Meanwhile the opposition is in the same predicament.  How can they convince someone to see beyond reason who won't consider anything other than logical reasons for doing so?

Well, in the interest of overcoming this impasse, let's consider my hypothetical opponent's position for a moment.  This questioning of reason's reliability usually begins with a questioning of the reliability of our senses and the fidelity of our perceptions with “actual" reality.  This questioning can go to the extreme of suggesting that everything we think of reality is a wholesale illusion, or it can simply suggest that our perception is very slightly and subtly out of phase with reality in some manner or another.

On strictly philosophical grounds, I have to concede the possibility that this could be true.  It has been common knowledge for millennia that there are limitations to what we can know as absolute fact.  It's possible that my whole life is nothing but the dream of a giant arachnid slumbering away in a mucus-dripping hive.  Nearly anything is possible.  But is it likely?  Who's to say?  If it's true, then I suppose it's very likely.  However, I would say that the burden of proof would be on the person making such a claim.  There are millions upon millions of possible scenarios of what our “true" reality might be, scenarios that surpass even the limits of human imagination, things we couldn't possibly even conceive of.  But unless some sort of evidence is presented in favor of a particular scenario, I see no reason to entertain it beyond its odd curiosity.  Of course, it's also possible that this “true" reality provides us with no evidence of its existence.  It's possible that that the truth lies beyond an impenetrable wall.

In such a case though, there would be no discernible difference between an illusion that seamlessly and perfectly presents itself to us as fact and a reality that is indeed a fact.  You could speculate about the possibility as an idle, intellectual pastime, but ultimately it goes nowhere.  The real question comes down to how you're going to live your life.  Are you going to dwell on the remote possibility that there is some unpierceable veil that doesn't reveal even the slightest wrinkle in its folds, or are you going to engage the world as it is given to human perception?  Are you going to proceed on the assumption that this world is a fact and try your best to survive and prosper in it, or are going to drop down the dark, infinite rabbit hole of “what if"?

Rabbit holes have their intrigue and their purpose; I'll give you that.  I even hope that we'll be able explore a few down the line here, what they are and why they exist.  But I would caution you not to get lost in them.  It's a long, long way to the bottom.

But let's return to our opponent, who has their own agenda for planting this tiny, little seed of doubt.  Once this seed is planted, they begin to cultivate it.  Whether the illusion they suggest is on a major or minor scale, they proceed to speculate that reason is bound within the confines of this illusion.  Reason is part of the system.  Reason, they suggest, is like a vehicle that can take you anywhere you want to go along a two dimensional horizon, but it tricks us.  It reinforces our faith in the illusion.  If only we could only let go of the grip reason and logic holds over our perception, they lament, we could see that what we think of as reality is merely a thin sheet of paper floating in a vast universe of three dimensional space.

In light of this, the strategy with which I plan to proceed is two fold.  1.) I plan to explore the advantages of relying on reason in the world as it is given to us.  2.) I plan to show how reason would still be a serviceable vehicle in this “three-dimensional" reality, should it be revealed to us.  I hope to show that reason is more adaptable and versatile then we might think.  I hope to show that we don't necessarily need to think of reason as something that holds us back and keeps us imprisoned and blind.  On the contrary, I hope to show that it is a liberator.  I hope to show that we don't need to think of reason as something that frustrates our heart's desires, but instead that it is the only hope we have for achieving them.  I hope to show that we can pursue truth to its very limits, we can go beyond the page if there's anything out there, and we don't need to leave our reason behind.  In fact, I hope to show that reason can take us there.

13 comments:

  1. Ha, I was having trouble setting the date until I realized you were using the English format (day/month/year). Talk about culture clash. That's too funny.

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  2. I shall engage with you, but not--I hope--debate. That is to say, I shall not attempt to persuade you, by means of logic or demonstrable fact, to change your position on anything. But I hope that you, with your chosen weapons, will demonstrate your prowess and defend your chosen realm, which I take to be “everything”. That is, to borrow your words, that “reason ... is our best means of understanding life and the universe ...”.

    I attach particular importance to your addendum to the above quote: “... that our very survival depends on its reliability”.

    Yes, I think you are right. Reason is a survival-weapon. So long as we are thinking of survival, reason is our best--at least when picking up a big stick and using instinct to bash your opponent is not quicker and more efficient.

    So I will grant you this realm, that of survival. I will not challenge you on it.

    But I shall argue that survival is not man’s entire universe. Give a man all he wants on the lower slopes of Maslow’s Pyramid of Needs and he will not be satisfied.

    The upper slopes (summarized as Love/belonging, Esteem and Self-Actualizing) are not straightforwardly achievable by reason alone, I shall claim.

    Nor will I accept Maslow’s Pyramid as necessarily the paradigm for mapping what man wants. I may lower my investigative bucket into another well - that of my own immediate experience, especially what I shall call my inner life, whose content is a chaotic mixture of rational thought, instinct, sense-input & its automatic interpretation into something intelligible, emotion and I know not what else (for I don’t want to limit its scope by my own prejudice as to what my inner life may or may not contain).

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  3. Yes, I was going to suggest that we restrain ourselves to a certain degree when it comes to directly debating the finer points of our respective arguments, especially here in the comments. I wouldn't want us to derail each other's plans or momentum. Also, I for one, would definitely start to eventually get confused about whether a certain point was made in a comment or a post. You know what I'm saying?

    I'll take your statements regarding Maslow's Hierarchy and such as a sort "mission statement" detailing your plan and intent, as I'm quite sure you intended it to be. I'll go on, putting forward my own thesis, and I'll let you press forward with your own.

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  4. That point about confusion whether something is in a post or its comments. I propose that we periodically update by adding the comments to the post and empty the comments thread itself. I'll have a go, without deleting the comments at this stage, to see what you think.

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  5. Hmmm, I'm not sure how much that helps. It might even make it more confusing. The comments aren't going into the book, I'm assuming. That's the thing to me, keeping straight what's going in the book. I'm fine with the comments staying where they are. I just find, even on my own blog, that sometimes when you get into debating things in the comments, you start getting into material that might be best saved for a separate post...or in this case...chapter. Of course, sometimes the debate might lead to ideas you wouldn't otherwise have. Still, I think if we try to keep the comments confined mostly to matters of the writing itself and the progress on the book, that should be more than enough to avoid any confusion.

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  6. Nice job getting that "strangeparadox" URL, by the way. I usually find that all the domain names I want are usually unavailable, typically by an abandoned blog with one post. I couldn't even get "nuclearheadache".

    I wanted to ask too about the policy on images. I don't know what format you'll use when eventually compile this all into a book, of if Kindle Books can have images, if that's the route we're going. Of course, I wouldn't litter the chapters with images like I do on my blogs. This is a book, after all. Still, a chart or an illustration might be useful now and then. If not, though, I can definitely get by without them.

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  7. I did imagine comments going in the book, where they merited it!

    It's true that comments tend to be spontaneous, & the Blogger framework doesn't facilitate comment editing after they have been already published. When I write a blog post on Wayfarer's Notes I might spend as many hours in editing the text as writing it in the first place. But the beauty of comments is to dash them off "without even thinking".

    OK here's my suggestion as to how it can all work. We don't have to think about how this will appear in the book, unless we want to. We can write as the spirit moves us, so to speak, within the constraint of our respect for one another, for the topics in question and for the reader who has to make sense of it all when coming to it cold. If this means writing an essay designed as a chapter, free of discussion, fine.

    But if you read any of the Socratic dialogues in Plato you see the power of dialectic.

    The idea of chapters is to have some structure. But the structure I think will emerge, and we can shift material where necessary to where it best belongs. Either within the blog so that we can work with it; or in a "post-production" type editing process that doesn't show in the blog but is done for the sake of the book, afterwards.

    What do you think? Meanwhile I will remove the comments from the main post.

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  8. Images - I'm all for them, either within a post or to decorate the template. So long as they enhance and don't distract, obviously.

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  9. I had a go at tweaking the template. I think the background is Tenniel's illustration to the poem Jabberwocky in Alice through the Looking Glass.

    We can of course change the blog title, or anything. We could leave out the "hold my hand" part. I think most people would still get the reference to the song.

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  10. Wow. I see you've made some changes around here while I was out at the movies. Very nice. I like it.

    And your point about the comments is well made. They do have the benefit of spontaneity, and it can help to bounce ideas off one another. I think the main thing is to remember that we each have a case to make, and to keep an open mind about the other's point of view. At the very least, we can try to remain civilized. ;)

    So, sure, I'm open to some discussion in the comments. I can see the benefit.

    (As for the posts, I plan to go on treating them as chapters, but feel free to approach yours in whatever way is comfortable. I already have a title for the next one and I'm working out the general idea in my head. Hopefully, it should be a bit longer than this one, which was really more of an introduction than anything.)

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  11. Okay, a few minor changes here.

    I changed:

    "Do you see who can pick up the biggest stick and see who can hit the other the hardest over the head with it?

    to:

    "Do you see who can pick up the biggest stick and hit the other the hardest over the head with it?"

    ...for obvious reasons.

    I would like to change the word "usefulness" in the sentence "It's a sword fight over the usefulness of swords.", because I'm not sure it's quite the word I'm looking for. I was trying to convey the idea of two people having a sword fight over whether sword fighting is effective way of solving your problems, but yet I wanted the sentence to end with "swords" rather than a repetition of "sword fighting." I think it sounds better, but I'm not sure it gets the right idea across. Still, perhaps it's a better analogy as it stands. Any suggestions?

    I changed:

    "Otherwise, you're left with no other option but walking away, perhaps surrendering yet another inch of ground and turning your back as the human mind continues to be scoffed at and dragged through the mud."

    to:

    "Otherwise, you're left with no other option but walking away and turning your back as the reputation of the human mind continues to be abused."

    I wanted to convey the idea of staying silent when something you believe in needs defending. But the first version seemed a little TOO defensive and melodramatic. The new version is still a little overboard, but at least closer to the mark.

    Finally I changed:

    "Whether the illusion they suggest is on a grand or slight scale, they proceed to speculate that reason is bound within the confines of this illusion."

    to:

    "Whether the illusion they suggest is on a major or minor scale, they proceed to speculate that reason is bound within the confines of this illusion."

    Just because I liked the musical play on words.

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  12. Excellent. I shall look at this in more detail, but there may be a delay as we are meeting a flight from Miami this morning and our two Jamaican guests will be staying till tomorrow evening, one of them using this room as a bedroom. (I still have my wi-fi laptop but of course we will be entertaining them, whilst they are awake.)

    I shall propose typographical changes in red, as I have done above, & follow your invitation to change text otherwise by suggesting a possible change alongside the original (which will be retained but struck through).

    I see that the chosen font does not print straight apostrophes or quote marks. So in the main text I will change the left hand ones manually to point in the right direction. In the comments it doesn't matter. I've now deleted my other comments about this.

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  13. Took your suggestion under advisement, and I finally decided upon:

    "It's a sword fight to settle the practicality of drawing swords."

    I suppose "prove" might have been more grammatically correct, but I think that suggests both opponents are in favor of sword fighting. I wanted the sword fight to be over whether there's any point to sword fighting, an analogy that parallels the paradox of debating reason. Also, by making it "drawing swords" rather than just "swords", it makes it about the activity rather than the instruments, while still avoiding the repetition of "sword fighting." Your suggestion as well as good night's sleep helped me to see this all a little more clearly.

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